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    July 6, 2013
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>> it will be interesting to see the timing of the tower and the pilot were communicating, it was like the last seconds itself. we will look at the timeline. it is interesting and what were other people coming in behind that were diverted. i went to oakland airport earlier and i was talking to some people in a kmo747 diverted to oakland and those people were told there was congestion at the airport and they would not be able to land and divert to oakland and in oakland we saw cafe pacific and a germany airline and all of those people were told they
were not told anything until the aircraft landed and were told about the crash because of the cell phones and they had news briefs and flashes and things like that. they wanted to call people to tell them they had a change in plans but the reality of the situation is that the pilots were coal about it. we have a sig or something but not being real pacific about that because the last thing you want to do is cause more panic on another airline because you want to make sure anything else was going on and that was the protocol. >> tom, you know what i find interesting, it is not as though sso has a tricky runway configuration. you have all of the clear skies and winds 7 miles per hour and assuming there was no sudden down burst, it is hard
to figure what happened, how you could misland on the airport. that is the question and your first thought is to go to the concept of pilot error because in many of these cases it turns out to be exactly that. but you got a very complicated piece of equipment that was called a fly by wire airplane to say literally signals are sent from the pilot's controls to the engines and flight surfaces and all of that stuff. if you have any problem and it doesn't respond correctly the pilot is powerless and engine problems, by the time you land and take off, those engines are critical. they have to be able to respond as quickly as they can because if you need to give extra power to get over the landing threshold you do that. on the other hand if somebody was trying to get off quicker because they might be able to get off the runway quicker and save fuel and i am not
suggesting that is what happening but there is complaints about that in the past that what could happen would be that somebody had a terrible misjudgment thinking that they knew better than the safety protocols but that is what the ntsb will do, they will interview people and look at everything and a year from now we will have a good idea as to what actually happened to make sure that it never happens again. there was a similar accident about five-and-a-half years ago but we know exactly what what happened there, crystals of ice in the fuel blocked the pilot to not get him to respond and you can't blame that on the pilot. >> good information, thank you, tom. we want to put out a picture that was tweet bid a passenger named ben levy that was on the plane during the crash and tweeted out this picture saying he was waiting for his ct scan
and diagnosis at sf general and thoughts and prayers are with fellow passengers and family. obviously this picture was taken, remarkable, taken moments after this happened. we were thinking what they were thinking and what they had gone through and looking at the plane with all of that smoke and wondering if everyone got out safely. i can't began to imagine. >> the shock and adrenaline after being on a flight for ten or 11 or twelve hours coming from shanghai and stopping from seoul and then moments off of the flight, everyone was off so quickly and to have the frame of mind and snap a picture and get something like this, it is remarkable. the pictures we are seeing,
katie utis have been outside the terminal talking to people about what happened and she has a lot of very emotional stories. katie you said, i heard you talking to a woman who had witnessed what happened and what did she have to tell you? >> reporter: julie to give this perspective, we are talking about the magnitude of a plane crash and how many people it affects, not only the survivors but the witnesses of the people that saw this. we see traffic collisions all the time and traffic collisions like that but you don't come to the airplane expecting to see an air crash, it is one of the rarest forms of travel and at this point people are trying to process what they witnessed today. >> i am not afraid to fly, it is just heart breaking to see that tragedy and shocking. it was really shocking. it was really shocking. >> people could see it from the international terminal and now, laurie is among the hundreds
stuck waiting for the airlines to reroute them and some of them are nervous to get board on planes and others are tired and eager to go home and everyone is being patient and taking this in stride and their concern is with the victims involved in the crash and not with their travel destinations and cars and shuttles bringing back to the airport and the lines are long and it is unclear when all flights will resume as far as normal. we come back out here live and there are lots of shuttles still bringing people to the airport and if you have not checked with your airline, you will want to do so because there is a possibility you won't get on a plane and you might not get on a plane tomorrow because there is a lot of congestion here at the international terminal and a lot of people dealing with what they have witnessed today. frank and julie. >> katie, can you tell, you have been there all afternoon, does it seem like the backlog is getting heavier with more people waiting or does it seem
to be getting through faster, and thinking out at all? >> reporter: well, julie, chp had blocked off the freeways experts to the airport right after the crash. there were people here in the terminal and several hours in they reopened it and it just hasn't taken -- the airlines have not had enough time to relieve the congestion so people are pouring in but yet they are not leaving the airport in airplanes so to me it seems like the backlog is just continued. i spoke with a woman who works for delta and that was like about an hour ago or so and i said do you have any planes leaving and she said no, not at this point. you can think about how many hundreds of people board international flights and if they are coming to the airport and they are not leaving that is hundreds of people backed up. thank you, katie. >> one of the most profound pieces of tape all afternoon
really is from a gentleman that watched this crash happened and you will see when you listen to him talk just how emotional he was and goes into great detail about what happened and as he is talking you can see that he was very upset by what he saw. >> i was just watching planes come in and this one, i saw that it looked normal at first. it was taken the same angle that they always come in like this and then the wheels were down. and then i knew something was wrong, about three or five seconds out, i said -- i started to call to my fiance and i said is this doesn't look right and the wheels were too low and too soon so this was the runway and came in like this and the whole thing just collapsed meal.
it never really had a chance. it was a three second -- i didn't want to call it an error but it should have been up higher and it would have hit everything normal and it didn't. there was no chance. it was a blunt whole trauma to the whole plane and just pancaked immediately like that, collapsed and slid. and then after a while it started to slide and pivot. i guess it was counterclockwise and then the wings caught on the tarmac there and they flew off and just about then the whole inside of the cabin went orange. and i was just like ... it continued to slide and just orange for a couple of seconds and all of the smoke came out of it. and then it turned brown as it was sliding. it went from orange to smoke to
the fuselage was brown. and then it just kept sliding and sliding and sliding. it finally stopped. you could see how the fuselage kept buckling and buckling. many times didn't come apart and it was unreal. it is hard for me to believe it now. the only thing that helps i looked at the tv and it looks like some people survived so i am just kind of waiting and hoping that more people survived. >> dan glickman with one of the best accounts of what happened at the airport. we want to go to rachel daggen, the spokeswoman for the injured patients there. >> they are here being assessed and converted -- it is our pediatric urgent care center converted today and managed the large volume of patients and i don't know the breakdown of the patients at this time of the men and women and ages, and conditions, they are all being
assessed now and i do know they are generally in better health than any of the previous patients from earlier today. so just to recap the day, we have 52 patients total and the very first group, the first group were ten critically injured patients that came at 12 this afternoon and in critical condition when they arrived and now five are critical and five are upgraded to serious. since that time, we have had additional waves. we had a wave of 17. we had a wave of seven. we had a wave of 18. roughly speaking, they have been in declining degrees of acuity, right? so the most injured came first. the second two batches there has been a lot of variation. i don't have any other lifted as critical but some are still
being worked out. they are having x-rays and various tests so we don't have the full break down of whether people are critical, serious or good. it is fair to say there will be people in each of those categories and hopefully and probably not so many critical and this last group 18 people is the healthiest yet but i don't have conditions for them at this time. that is the recap of the day. i may have more information about the male and female break down in age ranges for about an hour, i will be happy to do a final update at eight. i don't believe we are expecting anymore patients, no. (inaudible question). >> i don't know that. i believe that you can check with ems and the airport but in the field, the triage unit, most urgent to least and so there may have been a group of patients that can wait several
hours while other patients are being transported. i would imagine they were being cared for in the field in some degree by paramedics but i don't know specifically. (inaudible question). >> we were ready all day and the first group is definitely the most critical and then since then it started to decline. (inaudible question). >> i don't know. that's a good question. one remains critical and one is upgraded to serious of the first ten, two were children. >> is there 11 children of the 18 that just came in? >> some are children and some are adults. i am trying to add the grand totals but i don't have all of the information at once. we definitely have a mix of
children and adults. a mix of patients who will be not ever admitted to the hospital. they will be assessed now. they will be treated and discharged. that will happen and other patients will be admitted and some in fair condition and some in critical condition. >> what kind of injuries have you seen. >> the kind of injuries starting with the most critical, some had burns and they had fractures. they had internal injuries, internal bleeding. then dr. burton elaborated that some of the fractures were long bone fractures, meaning legs or arms and head injuries which could be some of the internal injuries could be head injuries, bleeding and we also saw spinal injuries and other
bone injuries. my understanding that this very last group that came in probably had more of the bumps bruises and cuts. they are being seen in the urgent care center. i don't want to give out my speculations of that yetinaudible question). >> there is no more need for them, everyone is inside. (inaudible question). >> all of the patients are being -- as part of the care team and for those that would need psychiatric or counseling, that would be the social worker. that is how that would normally work. (inaudible question). >> any trauma patients social workers are part of their team.
for the first ten all trauma and the next portion some were trauma and the last 18 are not trauma. (inaudible question). >> i don't know that. (inaudible question). >> i don't. five are critical and many more have not been assessed. we haven't determined that for every single one but five of the original ten that were critical remain critical. you had a question? (inaudible question). >> i don't know that. i can't speculate. >> of the 52, some have been released? >> some of the 52 have been released. that is the grand total that it started until now.
(inaudible question). >> social workers have been provided and staff will be connected with patients. inaudible question). >> we have plenty of people, lots of extra people. they all did come in from every discipline. >> you have been listening to the sf general spokesperson, rachel cagen. it is difficult to following her numbers. but she said from what i could gather that the first ten brought in at 12:30 today were critical, five of those have been upgraded to serious and five remain in critical condition. then she went on to say there were three more waves of patients brought in after that initial ten. she said 17 people were brought in and another seven and 18. she did classify the 18 in that group as being with moderate to minor injuries. said she was going to update us later on as to the firm numbers
but a mix of adults and children. we still don't know men or women and hoping to get information later, the ten first brought in critical and five updated to serious. >> and the ones coming in the second and third waves their injuries not as serious as the initial ten brought in. she was saying of those initial ten, they were suffering from things such as burns, fractures and internal injuries. again as julie mentioned, five in critical condition but the other five in critical have been upgraded to serious. let's go back to the newsroom now and tom va d art. >> reporter: thousands were diverted to okay land and san jose and some planes went to salt lake city because they could no longer land at san francisco airport that was officially closed. this was part of the drills and trainings that the pilots get. the reality of the situation is that you have a lot of airplanes sitting in places
they should not be sitting and they have to discharge the passengers and all of the inconveniences for the passengers but there were passengers that wanted to board the aircraft later tomorrow and they may have to go to oakland or some other place to board the aircraft because it doesn't look like repositions in san francisco will be easy. earlier i was in oakland and there have not been this many jumbo jets sitting and for many years. as we drove into oakland's airport we saw jumbos from germany and asia and domestic flights. we met two passengers there coming in diverted from sfo and one that was sent from sof to leave from oakland and here is what they had to say. >> 14-hour flight. we couldn't land. we flied around and could not get down and something was
happening. >> what did they tell you on the aircraft? >> they did not tell you much except there is some congestion. not really descriptive. it wasn't until we landed and looked on our phones and found the news ourselves. >> there were some people injured, i'm not sure, flights were canceled out of sof and diverted to oakland. >> jumbo jets were delayed about an hour or so waiting for gates and customs and there was good work. the reality is that the aircraft will have to be repositioned or the passengers will have to be repositioned because the aircraft will have to be rerouted on their routes. >> tom talk about the reconfigure ration of sfo, there are four runways, the plane was coming in for landing and the speed is 180 miles per
hour and how long is the runway and the potential for skidding and a situation like this? >> reporter: the two runways, 28 left, that is the runway that parallels the 101 if you are driving up the 101 you see armies in the bay and that's the one next to it and 28 is right and basically there was east and west and now the other runways that cross exactly horizon to them head out directly over the bay. these runways, the ones that where the crash took place are very long, ten or 11,000 feet long. that means that what can happen is that an airplane can go for a long period of time. they try to turn off one of the high speed turnoffs and get to one of the terminals as quickly as they can. what happened on 28 left, the tail of the aircraft where you
see that circle slammed seis made up of heavy rocks that we call rift raft protecting the rest of the property from waves. what happened was you can see a lot of debris thrown all over the place. it didn't go very far at all and still at least ten thousand feet of runway. the problem was it had no wheels or ability whatever so do that. you can see the debris field here showing you this airplane just blew apart right there. obviously this is all evidence that the ntsb will need to try to determine precisely where the aircraft hit and spinning and doing the things it did. all of this is important information. i have said it before and i will say it again. because of the unique nature of aircraft crashes everyone is initially considered to be a crime scene and all of the
crime scene rules apply which is why the police can chase you out of there. you can't say anything about it because it is a crime scene. if there is deaths involved and there may be someone culpable in the deaths of those people, then it really is a crime scene in the traditional sense and all recorded as that. all of this information will be gathered not only by the police but certainly the national transportation safety board because the number one reason they want to look at this aircraft is to find out what happens to make sure that this incident is never repeated and their track record of the years has been very good. as you know, each airplane crash tends to be somewhat different and some cases they are different and a lot of the reason there is fewer crashes an increasingly fewer crashes because the ntsb tries to learn to new procedures and protocols to prevent it from happening. you are looking at the back end of the aircraft and what you are seeing basically is what is left of the aircraft.
that's the situation, a lot of fire and a lot of smoke and fortunately an incredibly small amount of death. back to you. >> tom, as we look at the pictures, we look at the incredible amount of debris that is scattered about and they want to get all of that because it could be a clue as to what happened. potentially how long could this runway be closed down to make sure that they collect every piece of evidence and every piece of the plane that they need to get. >> first of all they will photograph everything and make sure they understand what is the debris field look like. part of this has to do with the fact that you don't want to be sending passengers out on the taxi way to look at this just before they take off. there is a certain amount of what i would call good taste involved here where you don't want to scare people and show them what happened. it may be a long time before the runways are opened. fortunately there are two less long but still very long runways that the airport can
use to land and take off airplanes. at one point in time when they get the debris field mapped out, they will take these parts of the aircraft to a long hangar and try to reconstruct the airplane in the same way that twa800, that's the one that went into the ocean off of long island, that is sitting in the hangar on the east coast and essentially reassembled and i'm sure that is what will happen to this. this is a new series of airport and completely designed by computers and because it was completely designed by computers, there was a lot of new technology and unfortunately some learning about new technology has to take a look at what happens when they crash. precious few crashes and fortunately very little death and that is the situation. back to you. >> tom, thank you.
>> we should mention that we obviously going long here. we have been on the air since noon, seven-and-a-half hours, continuous coverage of the crash at san francisco international airport. we are going to continue to stay on and we are waiting for a news conference from sfo, getting new information from the news conferences and expect it to start in the next five or ten minutes. we are expanding the coverage here so that we can bring that to you. just an interesting little fact here, you may be wondering when was the last time there was a deadly crash at sfo? actually it has been a long time. it was 1968. it was a japan airlines plane and what happened was that it overshot the runway and ended up in the bay. no one died and actually the passengers barely got wet and it has been a long time since we have seen something like this at san francisco
international airport. quite frankly, just as i think, i can't remember another major plane crash that either of the two other bay airports. there may have been one but i can't think of one offhand. >> 45 years since one at sfo, incredibly long time and we want to go back to john kawasaki, he has been at the airport all afternoon and he may have updates on patients at sf general. john, can you hear me? >> yes, julie, i wanted to give you a quick update, that rashal cagen from the hospital updated us. the good news is this of the ten original critical patients, five have been upgraded. that's good news and the other bit of good news they have received the last of the patients from this incident. all told there have been 52 people brought here from the asiana plane crash and some
according to hospital officials that have been treated and released and some people have gone to their destination and possibly a hotel or somewhere else. of those 52 how many men, women, adults, children, not totally clear, we have been here all afternoon and seeing the folks come in from this plane crash, a lot of them being brought in on gurneys with their heads taped down to backboards and a number of the injuries have been backed by neck related injuries. and certainly in a plane crash with the fire like this, obviously there is a lot of burns as well and quite a few of those with people in critical conditions and those are the kinds of injuries they have suffered, broken bones and legs and arms and things like that. internal injuries and burns.
waiting for possibly one more update to get a breakdown on who came here and who has been released and the conditions of all of those folks and we will bring you later live at sf general. john, thanks for the update. we are awaiting two news conferences, one to take place at sfo and the other at stanford, i think it is sanford medical center. we are awaiting that and they are supposed to start any minute. you can see the podium. we heard earlier from mayor ed lee and hopefully getting some updated numbers and the late thest deals from flight 214. of the 290 people onboard 77 were korean citizens and 141 chinese citizens and 61 americans and one japanese citizen. there were a total of 16 crew members. >> right now what we are really
waiting for is information on this one person who is unaccounted for. we do know that two people have died. perhaps we might get information on what happened to that one person who is still unaccount the for and we may get information on the names of the two people that were killed. the picture there on your right, that is sanford hospital and have taken in 36 patient from the crash. they are scheduled to hold a press conference momentarily as well presumably to talk about the conditions of those people that they are treating there, the passengers who they are treating there. we are watching both of these. we understand that the one at stanford running late. it is exactly 7:30 right now. hopefully the folks there at sfo will be coming out momentarily to give us an update. the last time they gave us an update, we actually got really some great news because for a time therewe